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New postby seth_johnson » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:56 pm

Not only is Minnesota the home of Skatewave, according to this article, they've got a state liability law that limits public skatepark 'ramps' to be no more than 4 feet tall.

The article looks like it was transcribed directly from Skatewave's sales brochures. It promotes the product as something that can be re-positioned because the ramps aren't permanently anchored. The flipside to that is that they can be stolen, which is what happened in Georgetown, TX. Also, since the ramps can be moved around, their framing gets torqued and the structure becomes weak. Below this article is a photo of the remnants of the Georgetown Skatewave installation.

http://www.crookstontimes.com/articles/ ... 8news4.txt

Skate park proponents ramp up efforts

Since its inception in December 2004, the Crookston Skate Park Committee, a subcommittee of Crookston High School's chapter of The minor League, has managed to raise $11,482 toward the $50,000 needed for improvements to the proposed park. Students serving on the committee hope to significantly fortify that balance soon so they can start purchasing and installing equipment in time for fun this summer.

D'Anne Johnson, community facilitator for Polk County's TmL, said they've been applying for grants from a number of sources, planning a few fund-raisers and doing a lot of research to determine the most effective use of funds. Their research included a tour of several skate parks around the state to get a feel for different brands of equipment and floor plans.

"We now have a pretty good idea of the floor plan," she said.

Today's model is hardly recognizable from the initial plan, though, as circumstances moved them to look at other distributors and product manufacturers, equipment configurations and locations. After checking out parks in such locales as Fergus Falls, St. Cloud and the Twin Cities area, the teen contingent was very impressed with Skatewave(tm) equipment, said Johnson. Skatewave is a division of Landscape Structures, Inc., a 35-year-old Minnesota company.

"In the last year Skatewave updated its equipment," she explained. "It offers pieces with a composite material over stainless steel, which is unbelievably quiet. They're also very safe, durable and low-maintenance."

Another thing about Skatewave products that struck a chord with the group is the modular design that leaves endless possibilities for skate park designs. Although they won't likely be changing the set up every week as the equipment is heavy, Johnson said they have the option to move things around periodically if they want variety.

The modular building-block design will also allow volunteers or city workers to do the installation rather than contract with outside installers, which will result in considerable savings and give a sense of ownership to the teens who have put in all the time and effort on the project, Johnson added.

Even with the relatively short use time due to weather conditions in Minnesota and other Midwest states, indoor skate parks are extremely rare, she explained. The nearest one is in St. Cloud. They are usually more costly due to maintenance and the standards are quite different. An outdoor ramp has even been included in talks of a proposed community center.

Minnesota standards for a public skate park require that ramps be no higher than four feet at the platform due to insurance and liability issues. Of course, Johnson said, "the boys want everything at four feet, the highest they can go."

Central Park, where the current skate park is tucked in the northeast corner, is no longer the proposed location for the new skate park.

"The city granted permission to move it to Highland Park, near the sand volleyball court and parallel to the horseshoe field," Johnson explained. "This location gives us more options and has no close residential neighbors."

Work on pouring the new slab is set for this spring, which will cost approximately $7,500. While equipment can be purchased gradually on a piece by piece basis, there is a sense of urgency to raise more funds as quickly as possible. The $50,000 price tag might even go down after an upcoming meeting with the sales representative, Johnson noted, making that goal easier to attain.

"We'd really like to see something in the form of skate park in place this spring," she stressed. "And it would be absolutely thrilling if we raised enough to get it all in then."

Community support

The committee has put on two Rock 4 Sk8 events each year - one in the winter, one in the summer - as its chief local fund-raisers, with one coming up Saturday at the Armory from 7 p.m. to midnight. Johnson said other fund-raisers are in the works as well.

Grants present the possibility of bringing in the biggest chunk of change at one time, however. Crookston Parks & Recreation has been a huge help, she stressed, allocating $5,000 from its 2006 budget and possibly more from this year's budget. In addition, the city has said it would provide the manpower to install and help maintain the equipment if the committee provides the materials and some volunteers.

The committee recently applied for a $10,000 grant from Hamburger Helper through its "Hometown Helper Community Giving Program" program. This grant is rather unique, as it allows people in the community to give their two cents on the project by visiting the website www.myhometownhelper.com.

"It helps set the program apart and show community wide support," Johnson explained. "I'm hoping the more positive comments we have, the better our chances are."

If that's the case, the skate park has a good start. As of this morning, 30 positive comments have been posted on the project, the first one on Jan. 10. Johnson stressed that there's no such thing as too many, though.

The program is giving $15,000 each month to projects across the country through May. Eleven projects, from among thousands of applicants, have received a total of $45,000 since October.


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There used to be more ramps and picnic tables here, but most of the Skatewave products were loaded into a truck and stolen.
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Re: Minnesota a horible place to skate

New postby king james » Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:21 pm

seth_johnson wrote:Not only is Minnesota the home of Skatewave, according to this article, they've got a state liability law that limits public skatepark 'ramps' to be no more than 4 feet tall.

I think Quebec up in Canada has the same law, or something similar. Poor kids.
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New postby John Bracken » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:28 pm

The only execption is private parks (like 3rd Lair) and the Edina YMCA.
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New postby KidsonWheels » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:53 pm

Is there anything saying how deep a pool can be?

We have a 5ft mini halfpipehere that was donated by FreeRide

There is plans and a site but funds fell thru for a massive concrete park
Duluth City Parks and recreations is still asking for donations

any ideas on who to talk to and how to get something accomplished?

seems a spot and plans are at least part of the battle

Koookalicious@yahoo.com is my email

I have the advantage of having the local shops involved so being able to organize serious people to get it together shouldn't be a problem

I think skating in Minnesota is RAD Duluth has a killer local scene

Brainerd, Bemidji,GrandRapids,I hear rumors of a homemade bowl in a gravel pit in Two Harbors and trips to the Cities to skate are always cool

KOW June10th Midtown skatepark 19th AVe W. Duluth is gonna be our spring KidsonWheels boarddrive Skate Day

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New postby adamhopkins » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:29 pm

duluth has a really good scene there's a comp at encountewrs i'm driving up there for next saturday
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Re: Minnesota a horible place to skate

New postby Chad Balcom » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:14 am

king james wrote:
seth_johnson wrote:Not only is Minnesota the home of Skatewave, according to this article, they've got a state liability law that limits public skatepark 'ramps' to be no more than 4 feet tall.

I think Quebec up in Canada has the same law, or something similar. Poor kids.


Quebec has a 3 feet rule.
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New postby Rob Hollett » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:54 pm

I think they should write some new laws that make basketball hoops no taller than 5 ft so people don't get hurt doing slam dunks, and maybe they should bring the fence in 150 ft or so on the baseball diamond, so every non-hitting kid out there won't have his hopes dashed by having to be good to get a home run, because feelings can hurt too.

Btw, I thought Quebec was metric....

Kids on wheels: don't give up hop on getting cement, but first get that stupid legislation changed, start a petition drive put it terms that make sense to change it. For instance if you fall from a 3 foot transition you hit the flat and if you fall up on a 10 foot transition you can slide out more safely. Get all the adult support you can especially from business people and medical professional, police etc....I am sure the police would support you getting a nice park built over having to kick you out of wherever they are now.

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New postby KidsonWheels » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:41 am

I dont think the legislation is an issue

the city has plans posted on the site that go way bigger than 4 ft!

and like I said our mini at the ghetto spot is 5ft

WHo do I ned to talk to to get my cities crack staff of people onto getting the park built

Rumor is funding fell through

City Counsel? Parks and Recreation? other ideas?

this is a huge COncrete park I couldn't stop smiling when I seen the plans

but then I learned about the funding issue
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New postby Chad Balcom » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:45 pm

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What a dick!

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New postby dedrec » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:43 am

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Wow that was meaner than I ever go. :shock:
Deal with it. (I am no longer a Solo sales rep. I do not know why it still says I am. I have removed that from my profile.)
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New postby Carter Dennis » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:15 am

Bear651,

I had to edit your post because you are making threats of physical violence. I think Seth is making a comment about the skatepark situation (state laws) in Minnesota and NOT your local skate scene.
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Dont tell me what he was trying to say.

New postby Bear651 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:21 pm

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New postby Carter Dennis » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:30 pm

Look dude. Your not getting it. This is a website which helps skaters, advocates and city officials in getting public skateparks built in their community.

Ive been skating for twenty years, but we also have many people on these forums that do not skate. They consist of city officials, parks employees and landscape architects. Therefore, they may be offended by your racial slurs and threats of violence.

Out of respect to you and all the skaters in Minnesota I have changed the name of this thread. Nobody on this forum think Minnesota is a horrible place to skate, it was merely an expression used to describe state laws impacting the design of skateparks.
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